Review Over complicated tackle? Or must have tech?

[Mr Fish]

Because of my lack of experience / guidance, I have always worked off the premise of K.I.S.S (we all know what that stands for

And also of the thought that the fish don't know if you have spent a few quid on your kit or "fowsands"

Ulimately and I am happy to be proved wrong, its all about presentation and knowledge of where you are fishing

Nope, you’ve got it about right imo!

Rig choice certainly plays a part in catches, especially depending on location/conditions but imo it’s nowhere near the deciding factor.
Sometimes it might make the difference on a finicky day or in certain circumstances and it never hurts to change things up, to a point.

But it’s also worth remembering that the reason you suddenly started catching on a slow day might be because the fish went on the feed due to the tide state, or simply moved into the area you were fishing, or it got dark, not necessarily because you’d changed your rig for the sixth time that day.

 

[Valleyboy]

No worries and tbh from your posts I didn’t think you were one of the ‘four hours on a sunny Saturday afternoon’ brigade!
But it’s surprising how many come on forums asking for advice then eventually reveal they do just that.
Nothing wrong with that at the very beginning of an angling career and nothing wrong with the occasional session just to get out, without expecting to catch much.
But ultimately to be successful we need to be there when the fish are and not when it conveniently suits our lifestyle (talking generally here, I don’t mean you).

As you say, that’s where local knowledge comes in and more often than not it’s building that up for yourself over several trips, for several years, lol.

If you haven’t already, it’s worth joining a local club. Not necessarily to enter competitions though you might come to doing that, but meeting people whose brains you can pick not to mention hopefully arranging a few trips with them.
Forums are great but they’re limited, partly because people don’t always want to share publicly online and partly because we’re scattered all over the place.
If you lived local to me I’d invite you on a trip or two to try and get your ray, but I wouldn’t have a scooby about your area.

You can't beat local knowledge

 

[Tournamag]

For catching, your location, time, bait and conditions are far more important than your terminal tackle. If your not catching rays now swapping the type of bead you use will not help

but makes a big difference on casting and bait presentation as those tronix beads are shite makes rig wobble and spin/twist when casting if you watch them and if flapping around limits distance as more air disturbance!.

 

[Tournamag]

Why use Pulley rigs, they are predominantly rough ground rigs, not much off that in this area. I mostly use up n overs, flappers and clipped downs, and a bog standard sliding trace.

Ian.

He could always pop past yours on way to Dorset and see your divine selection???????????

 

[Tatunka joe]

Try the 3 hook fanny wobbler rig its will catch all the fish I. The sea
My go two rig is a 2 hook loop rig casts well presents two baits one tight to the sea bed one up higher ussaly wack a pop up on the top snood 36 inch snoods caught pretty much everything going worthhaveing a look at and if you want a single or pennal hook long rig bragnell bar takes some beating killer on flatties but orso good for rays and alike sound bit of kit

 

[Wolf]

Ive used e black pulley beads for years and no hassles with them,I use the blue ones occasionally ,I've had all my rays using pulley rigs, hopefully you want have to wait to long before you get your ray.Tight lines mate

 

[chesilpete]

11lb small eyed would be nice ! Yes the pulley rigs are just a good easy rig to make at the end of the day as long as the hook is sharp and the bait is well presented on it there’s the chance of catching. Unfortunately I do love a bit of tech! So It’s definitely in my nature to fiddle and change things up!

This is a hobby so whatever makes you happy.... but rigs catch fish.
So 100% its worth having variety in you box.
Rays though up n over everytime for me.
Rigs always in my box.
Droppers single and wishbone 4ft n 5ft
Looprigs
3 hook and 2 hook, long and short with and without bling.
Up n over wishbones
Up n overs.
Pulleys
3 hook pats
Variety of hook sizes
All clear body and snoods.
I carry about 40 rigs at any one time.
If I am headed for somewhere with snotty ground I use another wallet with pulleys and up n overs with rock releases and rotten bottoms.

 

[flappy]

I put some hooks on a bit of line..

 

[chesilpete]

Try the 3 hook fanny wobbler rig its will catch all the fish I. The sea
My go two rig is a 2 hook loop rig casts well presents two baits one tight to the sea bed one up higher ussaly wack a pop up on the top snood 36 inch snoods caught pretty much everything going worthhaveing a look at and if you want a single or pennal hook long rig bragnell bar takes some beating killer on flatties but orso good for rays and alike sound bit of kit

I always said you were a fanny wobbler.....

 

[Wolf]

When I started fishing,many moons ago,if you saw somebody using a bait clip they were being technical !!!!

 

[Tatunka joe]

Must admit I do get a bit carried away with fancy new tackle just spent a silly amount of some fancy super glowy weights with matching bait stops and pop ups will it make a difference probably not but you never know plus I don’t spend money on anything else so why not I’ll let you know if any good

 

[chesilpete]

Must admit I do get a bit carried away with fancy new tackle just spent a silly amount of some fancy super glowy weights with matching bait stops and pop ups will it make a difference probably not but you never know plus I don’t spend money on anything else so why not I’ll let you know if any good

pocket money porn ;-)

 

[J Richards]

Don't do it.
You will never get any peace and quiet.
Plus you will constantly be out fished

+1 on this…… DO NOT TAKE HER FISHING… NOT ONCE….. TELL HER IS BORING AND MESSY.
I made this mistake….. now she catches more than me and bigger……. Plus they “pop” down for a “chat” and ruin you peace and quiet

 

[Wolf]

Can't see the point of glowy weights!!!

 

[Mr Fish]

Must admit I do get a bit carried away with fancy new tackle just spent a silly amount of some fancy super glowy weights with matching bait stops and pop ups will it make a difference probably not but you never know plus I don’t spend money on anything else so why not I’ll let you know if any good

I’m the opposite. But… some people love that aspect of fishing and if you want to spend a bit more on that side, why not?

And the various gizmos do work! I don’t think I need them but I’m not knocking them either.

I still refuse to spend £4 or whatever it was on five floating beads at Abbo Tackle though, I still think that was criminal!

 

[Tatunka joe]

I’m the opposite. But… some people love that aspect of fishing and if you want to spend a bit more on that side, why not?

And the various gizmos do work! I don’t think I need them but I’m not knocking them either.

I still refuse to spend £4 or whatever it was on five floating beads at Abbo Tackle though, I still think that was criminal!

We had the same discussion with abbo tackle my mate did by some but my £2.00 for 8 pop ups outfished them more to do with rigs tbh tho to be fair bits of polystyrene will catch fish when there about but it’s when there scarce is when I think something a little different holds the key

 

[Mr Fish]

We had the same discussion with abbo tackle my mate did by some but my £2.00 for 8 pop ups outfished them more to do with rigs tbh tho to be fair bits of polystyrene will catch fish when there about but it’s when there scarce is when I think something a little different holds the key

Sometimes, it certainly never hurts to mix it up. I’ve never felt the need for springs and pulley beads though, lol.

I wouldn’t have minded if matey at Abbo had charged even £2/2.50 for his five beads but almost £1 a bead, feckin criminal.
Considering they must come in boxes of 100s from China and probably cost him a few pence each.
Clearly a case of jumping on the bandwagon as they’d become so popular.
The rest of the shop prices were bearable, but those beads…

 

[flappy]

Clearly a case of jumping on the bandwagon as they’d become so popular.
The rest of the shop prices were bearable, but those beads…

It all depends on how many beads a man can handle..

 

[Mr Fish]

It all depends on how many beads a man can handle..

Certainly more than five small ones

 

[Si-fly]

I’ll have a look on YouTube to see if I can find him! Thanks.

Just had a quick look, that's the first vid that looked like it would be of interest. He has plenty of others for southbourne and surrounding marks along with a few rig building tutorials.

He's a England international angler I believe, so knows his stuff.